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The
conflict in the Balkans
From:
Milenko Samardzich
Subject:
The
Role of the SS Handschar division in Yugoslavia's
Holocaust
Date: October
5th, 1999
I was very
pleased you wrote such a incredible page. I thank you from
the bottom of my heart, for being honest and truth, since
half of my family died in Jasenovac. I was born in 60's and
remember only the stories I have heard at home. You have
done the same. The truth will never die.
Chef
Milenko
Samardzich
From:
Zoran Ilic
Subject:
The
Role of the SS Handschar division in Yugoslavia's
Holocaust
Date: 4th March
2001
I would like to
thank you in the name of hundred of thousands of
helples people who did not have power to defend
themselfs from the Handzar evil during the second world war.
They were slaughtered in the Nazi concentration camps in
JASENOVAC and GRADISKA, and all over the Bosnia and
Croatia with no particular guilt. Complete families
disapeared just because of their Serbian, Jewish or Gypsy
origin .
Thank's again,
and keep up your good work.
Zoran
Ilic
From: Peggy
Smith, Phoenix, Arizona, USA
Date:
October 5th, 1999
Subject:
Article
regarding the Vatican and Yugoslavia's
Gold
I find this
account compelling and alarming. What information can you
share regarding Pope Pius XII involvement? I understand that
all actions were sanctioned by 'Hitler's Pope.' I also
understand that his cannonization is well underway. Are
there any discussions, plans, etc. to alter this course . .
. Thank you so much for the information! I have found this
to be a most fascinating topic and one that sparks my
passion.
I will continue
to research and write to those with influence. I appreciate
your response. I have bookmarked 'The Flame' and am so glad
to have 'stumbled' upon it!
Best,
Peggy
Smith
From:
Daniel K, Australia
Date: 14th
March 2001
Subject:
Article
regarding the Vatican and Yugoslavia's
Gold
Well, I don't
know what to say.
In a flood of
the so-called "mainstream journalism", it is a real
refreshment to run into a web site with the content that is
just the complete opposite of what you'd read/watch
on CNN, BBC, etc. My parents' grand-parents were either
slaughtered or burnt alive by Croat and Muslim Ustashi
just because they were Serbs. As a kid, I would listen
to my grand-mother's stories who was a 17-year girl in
the early 40's, wishing that such evil times would
never happen again. Unfortunately, in the early 90's that
was exactly what happened and I found myself in a similar
situation.
To cut the
long story short, I just want to thank you on my
and on behalf of many Serbs and Yugoslavs who
know that "The Truth is Out There,
Molder."
Daniel
K.
From: N
Repic
Subject:
Genocide
in Krajina
Date: December
29th, 1999
THIS IS A
TYPICAL PROPAGANDA AGAINST CROATIAN STATE. FOR OVER 50
YEARS, CROATIAN PEOPLE WERE ALWAYS DEFENDING HOMELAND WITHIN
BORDERS RECOGNIZED BY THE WORLD. WNEN YOU WRITE SOMETHING
THAT WAS PART OF A COMMUNLST PROPAGANDA FOR 50 YEARS MAYBE
YOU SHOULD START WRITING SOMETHING THAT IS TRUE. FOR
EXAMPLE- BLAYBURG
From: ZKP,
Croatia
Subject:
Genocide
in Krajina
NICE FACTS
BRITS !!! WHERE DID YOU GET THE INFO ? MILOSEVIC ? ARKAN ?
OR ARE YOU STILL TRYING TO HIDE THE ROLE YOU HADE IN BLIBERG
? WHY DIDN'T YOU ASK ALL THOSE SO CALLED SERB REFUGEES WHERE
THEY LIVED BEFORE THE WAR..OR ASK THEM WHAT CROATIAN HOME
WERE THEY BEING CHASED FROM..OR WHAT DID THEY STEAL AS THEY
WERE GOING BACK TO THAT HOLE (SERBIA) FROM THE CROATIAN
HOMES..OR HOW MANY CROATIAN WOMEN AND CHILDREN DID THEY KILL
TO GET THAT HOME THEY WERE LIVING IN ..GET YOUR FACTS
STRAIGHT BUDDY..YOU HAVE NO IDEA ON WHAT WENT ON THERE SO
YOU SHOULDNT EVEN PUT YOUR 2CENTS IN ,OR SHOULD I SAY 2 LBS
IN..(ITS WORTH ONE CENT).. ALL YOU BRITS SHOULD DO IS SAY
AND DO WHATEVER THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TELLS YOU TO
DO.. DO YOU REMEMBER THAT WAR ? WHEN WE CHASED YOU OUT OF
THIS COUNTRY ??? DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND WRITE ABOUT THAT
WAR...KRAJINA WAS CROATIAN...IS CROATIAN..AND ALWAYS WILL BE
CROATIAN..THAT SAD SONG THOSE SERBS GIVE YOU DOESNT HOLD
WATER,NOT A DROP...AND FOR THEIR SAYING," WHERE THERE IS ONE
SERB IT IS CONSIDERED SERBIAN" MAYBE THEY NEED TO REPHRASE
THAT..OR BEFORE YOU KNOW LONDON AND BIG BEN IS
THEIRS...
From:
Chiro, Australia
Subject:
Article
regarding the Vatican and Yugoslavia's
Gold
Date: 19th
January 2000
Hi
Seán
I would just
like to say that it is refreshing to see such a website
created by people who speak the truth and offer indepth
articles on various aspects on the Vaticans role in the Nazi
puppet state of Croatia. I would also like to highlite the
fact that Croatia is once again undergoing a resurgence in
facist activities and today with the help of the Croatian
catholic church and the late Franjo Tujdman, Ante Pavelic
and his facist regime are considered to be heros and
croatian matyrs. Once again thank you for not forgetting the
750,000 serbs who butchered by Ante Pavelic and his facist
regime . . .
My name is
Chiro l am a first generation Australian, my parents come
from Yugoslavia and l currently reside in Sydney. I would
like to bring to your attention a tiny article that l cut
out of the Sydney Morning Herald, the article is entitled
SECRET MILLIONS. I will give to you word for word in the
hope that you may shed more light on the matter and also
most importantly if you do decide to follow it up, let
poeple know that the Vatican the most holy of institutions
is in actual fact one of the most unholy of
institutions.
SECRET
MILLIONS
ROME: The
Vatican secretly sent the Croatian goverment $A62 million
worth of bearer bonds to buy weapons during the Bosnian war,
the Johannesburg trial of South Africas former warfare chief
has been told -- THE GUARDIAN-1
You might well
already know about this, but on the slim chance that you
don't, l would love to see you follow it up in
depth.
Sincerely,
Chiro
From: A
Hayes, Netfive UK
Subject:
Article
regarding the Vatican and Yugoslavia's
Gold
Date: 23rd
January 2000
Dear
Sir
We seen your
site,well done, we have been hunting some croats down for
three years, and both the vatican, look at our web-site
www.bosniacoverup.com
on Bosnia.
We also have
made three Films about this place. we like to know can we
use some of your text or maybe put a link from us to your
site?
Netfive
UK
Mr A
Hayes
From:
Tudjman2@aol.com
Subject:
Yugoslavia
Date: February
23rd, 2000
ONCE A SERB
LOVER ALWAYS A SERB LOVER!!!! WHY DON'T YOU WRITE A ARTICLE
ABOUT THE MILOSEVIC AND THE SERBS!! THEY LOVE ATTACKING
UNARMED CIVILIANS!!!!!!
(unsigned)
From:
Feohthund, UK
Subject:
LAWYERS
SERVE INDICTMENT ON NATO LEADERS FOR WAR
CRIMES
Date: February
26th 2000
Saw your site
for the first time today, and I liked the bit about bringing
the warmongers and criminals who bombed Yugoslavia being
tried at the IWCT.
Any info on how
that's going? Alas, I suspect that the IWCT is a Western
glove puppet, didn't Louise Arbor say that NATO's war crimes
weren't in fact crimes at all because she thinks Blair and
Clinton's hearts were in the right place? Mmm, and I suspect
every butcher in history has believed he had right on his
side.
Cautionary
tale: a Welshman fighting for the Croatian Army bragged to
Channel 4's "Travels with my Camera" that he and his
comrades had demolished the home of a Slavonian Serb to
intimidate the local populace, a clear cut war crime if I am
not mistaken. I drew this to the attention of the last
government and this one, but neither government has shown
any evidence of pursuing this character, whom I named, whose
freely given confession should be in Channel 4's archive and
who regularly returns to the UK. Interesting that Carl Bildt
says that Clinton (and) Blair's hostility to Yugoslavia is
based on hatred for socialism and a refusal to plug into the
"free" market . . . exactly what I've been saying for years.
Just call me Cassandra . . .
. . . I'm not
surprised that there has been no IWCT action on Blair,
Robertson, Cook and the rest of the NATO vermin. Indeed, I
think you'll find that America's enthusiasm for Geneva
Conventions and such like date approximately to the Soviet
Union's economic collapse...as long as the US war machine is
invincible by conventional means, then America's political
enemies will continue to be indicted by the IWCT. As soon as
China (or any other state) becomes powerful enough to
seriously challenge the US conventional inventory, you mark
my words, Uncle Sam will crack open his stocks of napalm,
agent orange, binary agents and Tabun and wipe his arse with
the START treaties, and carpet bombing will come back into
fashion.
I agree that
Montenegro and Vojvodina are likely next targets for Western
imperialist intervention, and the theory that Slobo knocked
Arkan off because Arkan was planning to testify against him
is rather weak...Western leaders are always claiming that
they have enough dirt on Slobo, why cut deals with Arkan?
Indeed, the KLA (under a new name) is extending its
operations into areas of Serbia now called "East Kosovo", in
the hope of provoking a backlash and then a NATO
intervention on their behalf. And if I may labour the point
about war criminals, why hasn't KFOR collared KLA military
leader Agim Ceku and asked this former Croatian general what
part he played in the killing of elderly and invalid Serbs
left behind in Krajina?
Keep up the
good work.
Feohthund
From: Paul
Spiroski, Australia
Subject:
Did
the Bosnian government shell it's own
people?
Date: August
30th
You people have
absolutely ignored the fact that when war broke out in
Bosnia at least 2 million shells were fired by the Serbian
army into Sarajevo, many of which were fired deliberately
into civillian area eg the main hospital, libraries, museums
and even areas where there were no Bosnian positions.
Wouldn't it seem logical that eventually a large number of
people are going to be killed as a result of continous shell
and mortar bombardment?
Any one with
half a brain could see that Serbs were continously shelling
Sarajevo and other Bosnian towns and villages, so why when a
large group of civilians are killed, you point the finger at
the Bosnian government (just like the rebel Serbs did) What
you have done is read from the script prepared by the
Serbian leaders.
I am sure you
are not that stupid and cannot see that the Serbs are the
ones who composed the destruction of Bosnia and Croatia.
Just because they cannot accept democratic elections and are
extremely UNLEARNED to see past the lies and propraganda
being feed to them by their leaders. The Serbs have done
much in the last decade to shame their nation and people for
generations to come. But most Serbs it seems are proud of
the destruction that they have caused.
C'mon fellas
THINK and be much more objective in your work
From: Dasti
Dragicevic
Subject:
Did
the Bosnian government shell it's own
people?
Date: September
10th, 2000
Thank you for
your response, l am glad that you see the logic behind what
l wrote to you. But, it seems that you are very naive to the
very situation that Bosnia was in during the war. Britain
and France firmly supported an arms embargo (which was
illegal) against Bosnia (and Croatia) so they could not be
able to defend themselves. While the Serbs had every form of
heavy weaponry at their disposal, courtesy of Mr Milosevic.
The Bosnian army had very few tanks and artillery peices, so
l cannot see how you can say that they were "also shelling
Serb areas of Sarajevo". It is true that there are many
Serbs which lived in Sarajevo. Most lived in the
(democratically elected) Bosnian government controlled
areas. l am guessing that you did not know that the Bosnian
Army's leading commander (General Divjak) was a
Serb.
How could he
order an attack on Serbian civilian homes? There were
numerous Serbs who fought alongside the Muslims and Croats
in the Bosnian Army. Not every Serbs wants to be a part of
an intolerant fascist Serbian empire. It was the Serbs (and
Croats) which targeted museums, libraries and
Mosques.
Yes there are
Muslims indicted by The Hague. There are idiots on all
warring sides.
General Rose
was the most incumbent UN commander that there ever was. He
was nothing other than a conduit for Serbian propaganda. An
example: he complained that Muslims has evicted 12 000 Serbs
from Gorazde when Gorazde's pre-war Serb population was
approximately 5 000.
l suggest that
you should read objective books on the war in Bosnia like
Noel Malcom's: Bosnia A Short History and the BBC's Allan
Little: Death of Yugoslavia. Along with other objective
publications they state that there was not a single scrap of
evidence to support any claims that the Bosnian government
shelled the Sarajevo marketplace.
Thanks for your
time
Dasti
Dragicevic
From:
Jurate Macnoriute, Lithuania
Subject:
Lawyers
serve indictment on NATO leaders
Date:
September 23rd, 2000
Dear
Sirs,
Why I write to
you? Yesterday some requests came to my email box from my
friends and acquaintances who ask me to cross my fingers for
poor country Yugoslavia on this Sunday. So I'm applying to
you instead of below named persons and groups:
1. Rastislav
Durman (my friend, representative of opposition of
S.Milosevic),
2. NATO's
representatives and war criminals: William J. Clinton,
Madeleine Albright, William S. Cohen, Tony Blair, Robin
Cook, George Robertson, Javier Solana, Jamie Shea, Wesley K.
Clark, Harold W. German, Konrad Freytag. D.J.G. Wilby,
Fabrizio Maltinti, Giuseppe Marani, Daniel P. Leaf, Jean
Chrétien, Lloyd Axworthy, Arthur Eggleton, Jean-Luc
Dehaene, E. Derycke, J.-P. Poncelet, Vaclav Havel, J. Kavan,
V. Vetchy, Poul Nyrup Rasmussen, N.H. Petersen, H.
Haekkerup, Jacques Chirac, Lionel Jospin, H. Védrine,
Alain Richard, Gerhard Schröder, J. Fischer, R.
Scharping, Kostas Simitis, G. Papandreou, A. Tsohatzopoulos,
Viktor Orban, J. Martonyi, J. Szabo, David Oddsson, H.
Asgrimsson, G. Palsson, Massimo D'Alema, L. Dini, C.
Scognamiglio, Jean-Claude Juncker, J. Poos, Alex Bodry,
Willem Kok, J. van Aartsen, F.H.G. de Grave, Kjell Magne
Bondevik, K. Vollebæk, D.J. Fjærvoll, Jerzy
Buzek, B. Geremek, J. Onyszkiewicz, Antonio Manuel de
Oliveira Guterres, J.J. Matos da Gama, V. Simão, Jose
Maria Aznar, A. Matutes, E. Serra Rexach, Bulent Ecevit, I.
Cem and H. S. Turk.
3. Lithuanian
authorities and descendants of Lithuanian Jews' killers
whose fathers saved Jews from life and killing them made a
present to them -- everlasting heaven. Amen. And neofascists
in other countries too.
4. Still we
can't leave out today's Lithuanian army which desires to
become a member of NATO very much. Almost one year has
passed when two Lithuanian soldiers beat Doctor of Art
History N.Tumenene who is a tutoress of my
doctorate.
So instead of
above named persons I'm applying to you and asking to cross
yours fingers. Let Yugoslavian voters don't vote for
Slobodan Milosevic because he don't love NATO and hope
himself to reconstruct the socialist system. Does you know
what is this socialist system? If not, I'll remind about it
because long time I myself lived in Soviet Union and know
all subtleties excellent.
In Soviet
Lithuania the social maintenance was for all people. Every
got a job and at least his/her minimal means of subsistence.
The foodstuffs were very very cheap. Medical treatment was
free of charge. Every who had some total work record in old
years got his/her pension - women from 55 years old, men
from 60. The future was ensured. The State has supported
materially the artists, writers, scientists, sportsmen etc.
very much. Some sides of culture had achieved great
winnings.
However, this
support didn't bring all waiting results. These guarantees
and too good being brought our people to no appreciation of
the existing state. The people of culture and others often
became the alcoholics. By that time the Western broadcasting
tried to suggest that heaven is in West, and these theirs
illusions found a ground in the hearts of some people. After
"the stagnant" years came to us. The leaders of artists
unions (and together the leaders of communist party)
sometimes were not the high creative and clever persons. The
personal initiative was restricted. Still more every who
wanted to show his/her own initiative was disregarded. A
Soviet leaders' fault was why the socialist system was
defeated.
Now in
capitalist Lithuania life is worse for the majority of
population. For some people life is worse more more times.
Especially difficult life for young people who can't find a
job and for old who are unhealthy and have not money for
medicine, for paying theirs rent etc.
Artists' life
is worse too. Some of them are waiting only death. If they
are teaching at art schools, the salaries are very little.
If they want to sell theirs art works, nobody are buying
because everybody are thinking only how to make a living,
how to buy a food etc. and don't think about art as a thing
of luxury. The State almost don't look after the artists
now. Though some artists live very well.
Especially
those who have relatives closed with today's State power -
former deportees, former killers of Jews or own Lithuanians
who had another thinking. So the perspectives of
capitalistic Lithuania are sad.
Now Lithuania
lives from the Western debts. But time will come then these
debts will be demanded. Today's authorities don't interested
about the paying off debts. Lithuania already are siting in
the pocket of West. Our independence is only nice
word.
The criminality
was low in Soviet Lithuania if to compare with today's
criminality. Soviet Militia worked very well. Life of every
man/woman was almost safe. People didn't know what drugs
were, (or) AIDS, prostitution, mafiosi etc. The suicides
were very very rare occurrences when now Lithuania is in the
first place in World with its self murders.
After WW2 we
lived in clear peace. Now you see youself.
In this way I'm
sending to you this great request of NATO and others - to
cross yours fingers. In any case can't win Slobodan
Milosevic because he can turn out NATO from territory of
Yugoslavia and bring freedom and friendship for different
nations as it was 15 years ago. He can punish NATO leaders
for the war crimes in Yugoslavia. Remember please NATO is
the owner of Yugoslavia for ever. Yugoslavs are the NATO's
slaves. And any talks can't be.
Instead of
above named persons and groups,
Yours Jurate
Macnoriute
The
case of Dr Nijole Tumeniene: beaten up by soldiers in
Lithuania
From:
Jurate Macnoriute, Lithuania
Subject:
Attack on Dr Nijole Tumeniene
Date:
September 25th, 2000
Dear
Seán Mac Mathúna,
Thank you very
much for your welcome message. I'm happy that you appreciate
my artwork.
Now about this
terrible event. Nijole Tumeniene the Doctor of Art History,
my doctorate tutor and works at Lithuanian Government office
is a quite apolitical person. This small woman was beaten in
evening of 05 November 1999 about 8 o'clock of our time when
had done her shopping and went home. Remember that 07 of
November was the Soviet holiday of October Socialist
Revolution 1917. Few days before this event she said to
authorities of our Fine Art Academy that my dissertation is
good.
So in 05 of
November she calmly went from shop and suddenly heard
trample underfoot behind her. She turned back to look and
saw two running soldiers. Any bad thought didn't came to her
mind - perhaps some practical training of young soldiers.
They run down. The bottles of brandy were in theirs lifted
hands. She noticed that saw these soldiers in the shop. By
surprise they took money from her and began to beat her
head. Nothing more she doesn't remember because for long
lost consciousness. Diagnosis: concussion of the brain,
broken jaw and collar bone, beaten eye. About 3 months she
was ill and didn't go to work.
Plastic
operation of face was made. Some little mark only remain
under the eye. When she tried to apply to chiefs of army,
nobody didn't talk with her. When I asked her why she didn't
look for truth, she only laughed. Such history was happened.
With me until now all right. I have some problems with
defending of my dissertation, but I hope in some way I'll
defend it.
In principle
what you said about Baltic states life is truth. Only the
fact about discrimination of the minorities for Lithuania is
less characteristic as for Latvia and Estonia. The thing is
that in Lithuania 80% of population are the Lithuanians. In
Latvia and Estonia half of population is not Latvians and
Estonians. There they have drastic measures. These things
are characteristic not only for Baltic states.
This same is in
the Ukraine, in the states of Central Asia,
Moldavia.
What to say
about corruption? Only one kind of crimes more free existed
in Soviet times. It was corruption. Even the anecdotes went
about Georgian corruption. But corruption is not so
dangerous for human life as mafia now.
Best
wishes,
Jurate
The
History of the Khazars
Subject:
The
Story of the Khazars
Date: May 9th,
1999
Is it true that
Khazars make up over 90% of modern day Jewry? No! But any
estimation of numbers depends on who is to be regarded as a
Khazar or a Jew.
We regard
decendants of Khazaria as Khazars. Like Americans are
regarded Americans and Icelanders Icelanders, wether they
are Irish or Scandinavian. A Khazar is a Khazar!
We conclude
that just about half of the royal house of Khazaria were
pre-rabbinical Mosaic sephardic (former Alexandrine Egyptian
and Persian) royal Jews from Crimea and that the other half
was of newly judaized Western Turkic royalty. However,
Rabbinical Jewry immigrated to Khazaria in great numbers
from esp. Byzantium. Just about all of the upper class
Khazars of nobles and royalty, the White Khazars, were noble
warrior and merchant Jews from Crimea, Sogdiana and Caucasus
or noble warrior Turks that became Jews in due time. This is
generally not very well interpreted by the common
main-stream scholars of Jewish and Khazar
history.
However, the
great mass of common Khazars of Hunnic-Alanic-Turkic origin,
the Black Khazars, stayed generally gentile. The
Scandinavian God-Kings Othin and Thor basicly have the same
geographical and Alan origin, but well before any Khazarian
empire.
The majority of
the Azkenasic Jewry descend from all kinds of Khazarian
Jewry. A considerable minority descend from Jewish
Rabbinical immigrants to Poland from Germany (Lothringen)
and Austria (Vienna). We guess more than half of todays
Jewry have forefathers that passed through Khazaria. The
eventual Jewish Turks may constitute less than one third of
Azkenasic Jewry. This was regretably not very well
interpreted by Arthur Koestler in the Thirteenth
Tribe.
Most of the
common and gentile Khazars developed into Cossacks, Tartars,
Russians, Ukranians and other today mostly Islamic peoples
of the Caucasus, Southern Russia and Ukraine. Some common
Jewish Black Khazars developed into Jewish Tartars of Crimea
and turkish-speaking Karaite Jews of Crimea and Lithuania. A
special group of common and gentry (former Alexandrine
Egyptian and Persian) Khazar Jewish warriors developed into
tat-speaking (Persian) Mountain Jews still living in
north-eastern Caucasus.
There probably
never was such a thing as "ethnical" nations, just
"political" and "cultural". However, some seem in the long
run to be neither, but "religious" groups and nations, like
e.g. Muslims, Hindues, Egyptians, Tibetans, Byzantines and
Jews.
God repeatedly
made the covenants of the Chosen People and the Promised
Land with such a "religious" nation of Israelites, most of
them later to become the classical and modern Rabbinical
Jewry, but yet some others to become e.g. Khazars or
Christians. So "biblical" and political claims to this land
of Zion by Rabbinical Jewry, Jewish Khazars or any Jew are
historicly and basicly just. This is usually not very well
recognized by anti-jewish racists, who in racistically and
counter-historically strained terms try to proove that Jews
are not really Jews but Khazars, with no connection
whatsoever to Zion, Palestine and Israel. Eventually an
effort in vain by ignorant imbecils!
We think we
just showed that at least Jews and Jewish Khazars have
certain rights to their Promised, and eventually inherited
and native, Lands! A Jew is a Jew!
Hopefully this
will neatly sort these things out for you. Any comments or
questions?
Khazar Home
Pages
From:
Vladimar Pomakov, Bulgaria
Subject:
The
Story of the Khazars
Date: January
21st 2001
Hi
Sean,
I was just
overcome with the desire to write. I also took the trouble
to look through the readers' comments. Do you know that
there is a comment from some - it seems - very orthodox
Zionist? I tend to think that there is a certain category of
the world Jewish population today that is most certainly to
be blamed for the chaos reigning in the science of history.
And for having many authors and even ordinary people stating
that there is no such science as history. Yes! Just take the
first comments on the history of Khazars, the one from the
Khazar Home Page, Greece in your magazine (Readers'
comments). The fellow who wrote that piece seems to be a
rather ignorant person who did not even bothered to read,
though superficially, the Old Testament. And allegedly the
Old Testament is the early history of the Biblical Jews,
isn't it? Wasn't it written there, that the Jews, led by
Moses invaded the land of Canaan and massacred no more and
no less than 29 peoples (or tribes?)! Palestinians, or the
ancient Philistines, among them!
And why did
their God promised them the Holy Land and not some other
land plot? Naturally, because during their endless roaming
with their herds of sheep and goats among the settlements of
the civilized agricultural peoples of those times, they used
to pass twice each year by the rich fields and vineyards of
Canaan and it seems likely that they envied bitterly the way
of living of its inhabitants, of their having to eat enough
every single day and not being forced (by the Fate?) to trod
the year round the vast semi-dry steppe between the north of
Mesopotamia and the Nile Delta. And even when the Biblical
Jews managed at last to settle in the Delta they were soon
driven away by the Egyptians. Perhaps it was then that they
invented the whole story of the Promised Land? To have some
moral justification for the evil they committed when
conquering Canaan and killing out most of its aboriginal
inhabitants? God knows, we say.
That fellow
also seems to have omitted from his readings the story of
the Babylonians keeping the Jews twice in captivity and
finally finding themselves forced to expel them from Babylon
or whatever it was called in order to preserve the country
and its native people from the captive Jews destructive
influence? Never mind, however. I would like to ask the
fellow who made the above-mentioned comments whether he
could supply evidence supporting his thesis
below:
"We
conclude that just about half of the royal house of
Khazaria were pre-rabbinical Mosaic Sephardic (former
Alexandrine Egyptian and Persian) royal Jews from Crimea
(?) and that the other half was of newly judaized Western
Turkic royalty. However, Rabbinical Jewry immigrated to
Khazaria in great numbers from esp. Byzantium. Just about
all of the upper class Khazars of nobles and royalty, the
White Khazars, were noble warrior and merchant Jews from
Crimea, Sogdiana and Caucasus or noble warrior Turks that
became Jews in due time. This is generally not very well
interpreted by the common main-stream scholars of Jewish
and Khazar history."
Can he explain
how it happened that the Jews were to emigrate from Crimea,
or were warriors and merchants from there!? The Crimean
Peninsula was from the times immemorial a Scythian heartland
as was the rest of the Eurasian steppe lands, i.e. the
homeland of Indo-Europeans and Jews' presence there was but
the most occasional one, indeed they were to occur there as
single merchants from time to time.
Regarding his
statement of "Hunnic-Alanic-Turkic" origin this indeed comes
beyond the most presumptuous historical, anthropological and
ethnographical/ethnological ignorance. The "HUNS" are 100%
Scythians (Skitians as I would have put it) and therefore
Proto-Slav people and Europeans by origin. It is the same
with the "ALANS". "Turks" or TURKIC peoples have appeared
much later on the European historical stage - by the end of
the 1st millennium AD - and they indeed came from the far
Asia territories of today's Mongolia/Altai Mountains, etc.
They certainly belonged to another race! Nowadays people of
mixed blood between white and Turkic races are quite common,
particularly in Russia, but it wasn't so 1000 or even 500
years ago. Turks were a very distinct people, rather a
sub-race of the yellow race than of the white one. Not to
speak of the languages! So there is simply no such creature
as "Hunnic-Alanic-Turkic" Homo sapiens in those times. Most
definitely.
Regarding the
statement or assumption that there never were "ethnical"
nations: it seems the concept of "no ethnic nations, only
political, religious and cultural ones" is a very convenient
one for the category of Jews I referred to in the beginning
of my letter. However, it will take quite of an effort for
the fellow to explain how then there is so many distinctive
ethnic entities in the world today.
Vladimir
Pomakov
From:
Anthony Sistrom
Subject:
Khazars
and the Scythians by Vladimir
Pomakov
Date: January
18th, 2001
Excellen paper,
on the history of the above tribes. I concluded that the
Khazars, and Akatziri were the same but needed
documentation.
Many thanks for
putting it so clearly on the web
Leonard
Martin
London England.
From: Dan,
Israel
Subject:
Arthur
Koestler and the History of the Khazars
Date: September
8th, 1999
Since your a
self hating left wing Jew. You know the bible says, God gave
Israel to the Jewish people. So you being anti Zionist, have
to disprove the Jews in Israel are not descendants of
Abraham. Your bullshit site is full of lies. Jews are not
Khazars.
There was never
in history a state called Palestine. The Palestinians are
not a biblical people. They came from the surrounding Arab
countries in the late 1800s. Only the Israel had a state
there. From 70AD to 1948, Empires controlled the land. Until
the 1960's, ALL ARABS refered to this area, as a province of
Greater Syria. If you claim that the "Palestinians" are a
"People" and Israel is their land, then tell me this: who
was the first "king" or "president" or "dictator" of Arab
Palestine?? (If you say Arafat, then you admit that their
history is very short).
What was their
national anthem? What was their national flower? You cannot
answer these, because THERE NEVER WAS SUCH A THING AS A
PALESTINIAN ARAB NATION. It is a hoax that has been
promulgated since 1964 as a propaganda device. The name
Palestine, is a colonialist name, the Romans gave the land
of Israel, after they defeated the Jews in 70ad. The Romans
changed the name, so Jews would lose all connection to
Israel. The name Palestine, is named after the Philistines.
The Philistines were Israels ancient enemy in Biblical
times. They came to Israel, from where Greece is today. The
Philistines were not Arabs, Muslims, or descendants of
Ishmael.
The
Palestinians are not related to the the Philistines. Most
Palestinians currently living in Israel today, are the
descendants of immigrants, from Egypt and Syria who arrived
two hundred years ago. Jerusalem was never in history an
Arab capital. There is not one single mention of Jerusalem
in the Koran. Only the Jews have had Jerusalem as there
capital. David and Solomon built up Jerusalem. Further, from
1948 to 1967, when the Arabs occupied Israeli East
Jerusalem, the Arabs kicked out all the Jews from East
Jerusalem, burned 58 temples and built bathrooms next the to
wailing Wall.
Only when
Israel liberated Jerusalem in 1967, was Jerusalem a free
city. And most importantly, that Muhammad flew from Heaven
from the temple mount. This is the biggest lie in history.
It was Hajj Amin Al Husseini, the Arab Nazi leader of the
1920s, who made this lie up. Husseini made this lie up, so
Arabs would riot against Jews. And we all know, the Arabs
massacred the Jews in Hebron
(unsigned)
Jim
Allen's play Perdition and the Holocaust in
Hungary
From:
Flutie
Subject:
Kasztner's
List: Zionism and the Holocaust
Date: August,
9th 1999
Jews never
collaborated with Hitler. Thats a total lie. Jews were
Victims of Hitler and his madness. Jews tried to save there
fellow Jews. But not one single country let Jews in. I dont
mean to be rude to you, but i dont understand, why there are
so many self hating Jews. Do you know how i found out about
your site, A Holocaust denial from the Yahoo world report
send me it. You give this bullshit information, that Jews
are not descendants of Abraham. I think your upset, that
Israel has stood up to the Arabs and there racist thinking.
What do you think would have happened, if Israel would have
lost any war to the Arabs.
What you should
put on your website is, all the Arab massacres they've
commited. I'll send you the list. You should also document,
the Arab Nazi alliance. As a matter of fact, i'm gonna have
someone, who is very familiar with the Arab Nazi alliance,
tell you all about it . Then you say the stupiest thing, you
say, i wonder why Assad has Brunner in Syria. Did it ever
occur to you, that Assad and tons of Arabs are like Brunner.
Do you know right now, Assad is using Lebanon and the Beka
valley, to produce one of the biggest drug trades around. Do
you know Assad and Iran, are also using the Beka valley, to
make millions of counterfit 100 dollar bills and sending
them into the U.S.
And Sabra and
Shatille were not commited by Israel. The killing was done
by Chiristian Arabs, because the Christian Arabs, were were
massacred by the PLO and its muslims allies in Damour
Lebanon in 1976. Which the media never talks about.
2nd, Jordan was
part of the British Mandate. The British took the land in
1922 and created this country and named it after the Jordan
river. 70 percent of Jordans population is Palestinian. Do
you know how much land, the Arabs have since the Balfour
declaration and how much the land the Jews have.
The Arabs have
80 percent and the Jews have 20 percent. Further 800,000
Jews were kicked out of the Arab countries in 48, not the
555,000 you mentioned. And do you know, Israel took in every
single one of those 800,000 Jewish Refugees, while the Arabs
with all these countries, refuse to take in any of the
Refugees they created, when they attacked Israel. And its a
known fact, that the Arab countries told the Palestinians to
leave there homes, because they wanted to clear the Area, so
they could kill all the Jews.
Further,
Jerusalem was never in history an Arab capital. Only the
Jews have had it as there capital. You probably were happy,
when the Arabs from 48 to 67, kicked out all the Jews from
East Jerusalem, burned 58 temples and built bathrooms next
to the Wailing Wall. It amazes me, the Arabs who are just as
racist as the Nazis. I'll gonna send you reports from there
media.
And to think,
you support these racists And you make lie after lie on your
Selfhating website. I must say, only the Jews support there
enemies.
Now i'm gonna
have someone document the Arab Nazi alliance to you. I'm
also gonna send you, what happened to the Christian Arabs in
Damour Lebanon. By the way, since you put Arthur Koeslers
lie of a book on your site. Why dont you put a holocaust
deniers book on your site.
(unsigned)
From:
Anthony Sistrom
Subject:
Kasztner's
List
Date: August,
1999
Dear
Seán Mac Mathúna
Your
introduction to Kasztner's List is brilliant. I have been
studying Jewish history for two decades and I have never
seen so much wisdom compressed into 15 paragraphs. My only
disappointment is that my beloved Magyars are descended from
the same Mongol tribes.
A
traditionalist Catholic journal with a tiny circulation
published from St. Louis, Social Justice Review, has in its
September-October 1999 issue a review of Ben Hecht's Perfidy
by a Cleveland psychiatrist who concludes in bold capitals
AND NOW YOU KNOW WHY YOU NEVER HEARD OF THIS BOOK- THE
ZIONISTS WANT TO KEEP IT SECRET The reviewer, Dr. Samuel A.
Nigro, is understandably upset by the accelerated attack on
Pope Pius XII occasioned by the appearance of John
Cornwell's new book. If you have not already done so, please
read John Garrard's The Bones of Berdichev The book is about
Vassily Grossman, Soviet Jewish novelist, who believes the
Holocaust began not in Poland but in Nazi occupied Ukraine.
He also believes that greed not race was the motive for
Ukrainians turning against their Jewish neighbors. John
Lukacs' Budapest 1900 shows that a whole generation of
Jewish youth were radicalized by sociology professor Oszcar
Jaszi in turn of the century Budapest. These very same
students would lead the red revolution of 1919. Hungarians
were understandably wary of the Jews in their midst after
the revolution was put down. But in spite of this Jews in
Hungary would dominate all the professions, so much so that
the Parliament imposed quotas restricting Jews, 5% of the
population to 20% of the jobs.
What happened
in America in the 1960s with the Cultural Revolution was a
replay of what happened in Hungary. According to Stanley
Rothman in his 1982 book, The Roots of Radicalism, the chief
motive of radical Jewish youth was their fear and loathing
of Christianity.
According to
Arthur Liebman in his 1979 book, Jews and the Left, Jews
were a majority in all the principal radical movements of
the 1960 There is a chilling silence about the Jewish
presence in American life. The Jerusalem Report, an Israeli
newsmagazine, reported in 1996 that 7 out of the top 10 jobs
at the US State Dept would go to Jews. Commentary magazine
noted last year that 7 out of 10 reporters on the Harvard
(University) Crimson were Jews from only three states, NY NJ
and CT. The Wall Street Journal carried an op-ed by a Jew
who breaks the mold. Dennis Prager reflecting on the tragic
attack on a Jewish community center in LA, noted that many
Jews opposed any expression of Christianity in public life.
He said that this opposition has had a corrosive effect on
American life. How corrosive can be seen from T R. Reid's
new book, Confucius Lives Next Door. Reid, a Washington Post
Reporter, who did a 5 year stint in Japan and is now in
London, marveled on his arrival in Tokyo at how his 10 year
old daughter could travel with a friend to Tokyo Disneyland
90 minutes from their home and three train rides with no
adult escort.
Confucius
lives!
With kind
regards and best wishes,
Sincerely,
Anthony
Sistrom
From: Yoram
Rovner, Chile
Subject:
Perdition
and the Holocaust in Hungary
Date: March 8th,
2000
Dear Sir:
I'm the editor of a Chilean
jewish magazine (http://www.geocities.com/~gezai/),
who deals with moral issues of Jewish history. I've been
very impressed to see the Kasztner story and other articles
that you have published. Because l want to write some
articles for my magazine, l have some questions for you
about this topic:
- How has been the reaction
of the Jewish people to this topic ?
- Which Jewish historians
critisize the Kasztner item or other collaborationist
issues ?
- Do you have more
information about it - Which books should l read
?
- Where can l get a copy of
the movie Perdition of Jim Allen ?
Sincerily
Yoram Rovner
From:
Martin
Date: March 31st,
2000
Hello,
Who are you guys? What is the
point of your site? What are you trying to accomplish? I am
considering the possibility that your intentions are good
but I am very unconvinced, hence my questions . . .
The part of your site which I
came across was the part regarding the Holocaust of European
Jewry. I am curious as to your interest in promoting the
belief that certain Zionist leaders collaborated with the
Nazis as well as your interest in promoting the idea that
most Jews descend from a Turcik tribe rather than the
Israelites. I have seen similar arguments from confessed
anti semites and I wonder what your intentions are when you
choose only to publish one side of the story and a side that
is very outweighed by the facts.
Regards,
Martin
The
Life of Klaus Mann
From: Peter
Grunwaldt, Germany
Subject:
Klaus
Mann
Date: April
27th, 1999
Hello,
I haven't read
all the text, but Heinrich Mann (1871-1950) is not the
grandfather of Klaus Mann - he is the brother of his father
Thomas Mann.
Greetings
Peter
Grunwald
George
Andrews
From:
Brandon Post, USA
Date: May
13th, 1999
Subject: A
Question for George Andrews
Mr.
Andrews
I was riding a
mountain bike through a forested area near Corvallis Oregon,
USA in 1991 or 1992. I happened upon a piece of paper
hanging from a limb. It looked as if it had been there for
some time. I took it down, and it was a poem titled
"Lightning Illumination" by George Andrews. I have a degree
in English Literature, and gave it a thorough review. It was
a wonderful piece of work, and I wish to find it again.
After reading My
Missing Time Experience,
I could not help but notice the similarities of style in
"Lightning Illumination" and the "My Missing Time
Experience" essay.
It would
satisfy me greatly if this was the George Andrews who
authored "Lightning Illumination" and where I might find
that poem, as well as others.
I quite enjoy
your Magazine so far. I look forward to finishing it at a
leisurely rate. Your web design is pleasant, fluid and non
obtrusive. Mainstream really bogs me down
sometimes.
Thank
You
Brandon
Post
The first draft
of anything is crap - Ernest Hemmingway
Dub
and Reggae
From:
Kenny Funk, USA
Subject:
DBC
(Dread Broadcasting Corporation) Article
by Bob Baines of the Three Key Sound
Date: July 3rd,
1999
Hi
Sean
While traveling
in London in 1985, I went to Camden Market and picked up a
tape of a 1982 Dread Broadcasting Corp. live recording. Any
idea how I can get a hold of another one? It's awesome . . .
The DBC was a pirate radio station. The tape I have is from
one of the broadcasts from 1982. I doubt any of the shows
were put on CDs, only analog cassettes. I'm just itching to
find someone who has some more of them to trade. Thanks for
getting back to me and hope all is well.
Kenny Funk,
New York City, USA
Jack
Cade and the Kentish Revolt of 1450
From:
Brittany Laucis, Texas, USA
Subject:
Kentish
Revolt of 1450
Date: September
13th, 1999
I was just
reading the information you have on the Kentish Revolt of
1450. I am interested if you have any other information on
Jack Cade himself. His history upto the revolt and his
family. If you could be of any help at all I would
appreciate it. I am working on a school project . . . I just
wanted to thank you for the information that you sent me. It
was very appreciated and helpful. I am writing to you from
Texas, in the US. Again thank you for your help.
Brittany
Laucis,
8th grade
From: Emma
Ko
Subject:
Seán
Mac Mathúna article on Jack Cade Rebellion,
1450
Date: October
5th, 1999
Hi - I was
wondering if you could help me. I am working on a history
programme for the BBC, and am in the middle of research on a
film about the London Stone. I came across the article
written for Flame, which suggests the London Stone was
created as an alter-stone, laid by Brutus the Trojan. I am
wondering where you got this information from, as I have
looked through many sources and your article is the first
mention of that as the London Stone's origin. Obviously it
is a very interesting and exciting possibilty and I would
like to follow it up.
If you wouldn't
mind getting back to me. Thanks.
Emma,
Screenhouse Productions
Mumia
Abu-Jamal and the bombing of MOVE
From:
GrizzlyCop, USA
Subject:
Mumia
Abu-Jamal
Date: February
24th 2000
PLEASE! Enough
of this outrage to free a convicted copkiller ... for 18
years MANY judges have reviewed his case and come to the
same conclusion, including our own Supreme Court. I abhor
the thought that this convicted killer might be freed
because of movements like yours that ignore the truths of
the matter, and scream for "justice", trying to intimidate
those who make the decisions in our country.
Why don't you
keep your fights on your own turf for your own people and
stay out of our affairs, as you in Europe have repeatedly
told us in the USA to do for so many years?
(unsigned)
From:
GrizzlyCop, USA
Subject:
Mumia
Abu-Jamal
Date: February
26th 2000
From Flame:
We read today that there have been so many miscarriages of
justice in the state of Illinois that the governor has
suspended executions . . . you've been here since 1945 - and
stop using our country as a floating base to wage war
against other nations - much against the will of the people
here.
I don't intend
on carrying on a political diatribe with you, as I can see
you are well-entrenched in your socialist beliefs; however,
I must respond to your two statements above:
1-don't believe
everything you read about this great country called the USA
... our methods of punishing the guilty are what keeps the
system running today. As for your misguided thoughts on guns
- statistics are easily manipulated. If I thought you would
read something of consequence, I'd refer you to a very
thorough independent study done by Yale University
concerning the use of guns in America...one that supports
the right to carry arms, and one that also unbiasly reports
how many crimes have been aborted by good citizens carrying
firearms...but I doubt you'd read it - you remind me of the
workhorse with blinders on ... looking one way
only...sad.
2-Yes, we have
been there since 1945 - too bad we didn't just let Adolf
take your country and roast all your fine citizens that he
felt didn't fit in with his "perfect" race plan. I agree
wholeheartedly with you though, we should get out of all of
Europe, out of all the foreign countries (and take our
dollars with us), and let all of you fight it out, while we
stand back and watch. And that is the will of most of the
people here.
Pog mo' tho'in
te ciente!
the friendly
Grizzly Cop
Che
Guevara's Irish Roots
From: J
Dixon, Cork, Ireland
Subject:
Che
Guevara's Irish roots
Date:
February 4th, 2000
Dear
Sean:
Thanks for your
e-mail. However it has been said to me that "Ana Isabel
Lynch" must have been born in Argenitin as her name seems
Spanish. Therefore it is possible that her father was the
emigrant from Ireland, I was impressed by the Mormon list of
Anna Lynches here, will still look into two nearby ones
thoug it seems now doubtful that they will be useful. I have
heard Galway, Kilkee, West Cork named as possible places.
The idea that
Patricio Lynch went to Spain from Galway in 1715 thence to
Argentina seems a bit doubtful as it is a long time ago to
have records - though, as you said, the better-off types had
their records well kept! Last year I got quite close to the
problem, it seems Celai - Che`s daughter - was in California
studying her family roots which it seems included a visit to
California during the gold rush - 1848 or so.
Also I had a
contacat in Rosario with someone who was going to contact
their local history buff - but that went dead too. Also two
days ago rumour that Che`s son is living in Belgium, so will
try to trace that. Also note from Eamon and Deirdre that
Argentina kept superb immigrant records, but since the
generals they have been neglected, even destroyed at times
to cover Nazi immigration. These two were returning to
Argentina, no word since...so it goes.
Will keep
trying and will let you know.
Salut
Jaime
The
struggle of Indigenous People's in the
USA
From: White
Owl, USA
Subject:
The
U'wa struggle and the recent murders of three indigenous
rights activists
Date: March 8th,
2000
Hello
I would like say that the
attack on traditional Indigenous Peoples stretches all
across North and South America and at the forefront of this
attack is the U$A and its disguised face of democracy. If
one were to travel through Canada, U$A, Mexico and into the
South American countries the scene is the same all across
theses two continents.
What do we as a People do when
the world is against us and our way of life which is the
land is under constant attack by people who have no regard
for the sake of human life. We the Indigenous People of the
land have a strong conection to the earth for she is our
Mother and we respect her as such, however not only do 'we'
suffer with this distruction for we are all Indigenous to
the living earth.
I would like to bring attention
to whoever reads this that here in the USA human right
abuses are continuing, to name a couple, the threat of
forced removal of traditional Navajo People at Big Mountain,
Arizona, USA so big Industry could mine the land, also the
taking of Lakota (Sioux) in South Dakota and the many other
land thefts and human rights abuses that continue. For more
info on the Lakota struggle check this website:
http://www.fireonprairie.org
Are the Indian wars really
over?
Thank you
White Owl
Tibet
From: Gavin
Allwright, Japan
Subject:
Journey
to the Land of the Snows
and
the Tibetan Weblink
Directory
Date: September
1st 2000
I think your magazine is
definately an interesting one and I will be recommending it
to my friends/colleagues etc. Good luck with future
publications.
Gavin Allwright,
Managing Editor
Kotan Publishing,Inc.
http://www.kotan.org
From: Wei
Loo
Subject:
Journey
to the Land of the Snows
Date: November
4th, 2001
Hello,
The "Free Tibet" movement is a sham and just a tool of
the American and British imperialists to attack China. The
fact is that Tibet is INDISPUTABLY part of China and this is
recognised by basically every government in the world.
China in fact liberated Tibetans from a bloodthirsty,
ghoulish and exploitative theocracy. The facts are that the
ruling clique in old Tibet were parasitical tyrants who
lived a life of leisure on top of the 90% of Tibetans who
were serfs. Tibetan buddhism is a mish-mash of superstition
and old-wives tales are as indeed all religions. However in
a secular society one may choose to practice any belief or
religion so long as he does not infringe on the rights of
others. This of course is entirely different from the
situation in old Tibet where monks would sit around getting
"enlightened" while serfs and slaves toiled to feed
them.
It is also an incontestable fact that monks often would
sexually molest servant boys that were apprenticed to them.
I can produce solid proof of this. Of course you know that
the Dalai Lama has publicly accepted homosexuality as
"normal". What type of religious leader is he????????
Many witnesses abound of the cruel punishment and
tortures that were visited on wayward serfs by the Dalai
Lama and his cronies in the period before liberation,
including chopping off of hands and limbs and skinning
people alive. This is INDISPUTABLE.
I would like to ask why everytime there is a movie about
Tibet such as "4 years in Tibet" and "Kundun" the hero is
always a white European. Why is this? Why can they not get a
Tibetan to be the star? The answer is obviously because
these new-age freaks that support a so-called "Free Tibet"
are just a bunch of self serving hypocrites into self
promotion and glorification.
The so-called "Free Tibet" movement is just a front for
for anti-China diehards who want ot return to the good old
days of the Opium War and gunboat diplomacy. Tibet of course
also suffered directly from British aggression at the
beggining of the 20th century.
Tibet shall always remain a part of China!!!!!!
Regards Wei Loo
From: Goh
Jong-Mun, Singapore
Subject:
Journey
to the Land of the Snows
Date: September
16th 2000
Dear writer and
editors,
I have read
your internet story, "Journey to the Land of the Snows", and
would like to contribute my two cents worth of ideas on this
story.
I myself am
very interested in the Tibetan culture and lifestyle, and
have read some books on them. I personally feel that there
are just too many books out there that exaggerates the
sorrow of Tibetans under Chinese rule, but have either just
did a touch-and-go on the British invasion, or even brushed
it aside.
I am a
Singaporean ethnic Chinese. I also felt sorry for the
torn-down temples and devastated people. However, I would
not consider this a result of racial genocide, let alone
compare it with that of the Nazi and KKK.
The damage was
actually a result of the Chinese communist's intention to
create an atheist world. During the times when communism is
so highly regarded, it can be understood why those people
had not thought of the after-effects they would bring to the
Tibetans. I am not saying that it is forgivable, only that
the motive is not "genocide". In fact, the adverse effects
of communisim not only affect Tibet, but the Chinese
themselves. If you notice that Taoist and other religious
relics were also destroyed as a result of the athesim wave,
you would understand what I am trying to say.
Tibet did not
suffer alone under Chinese communism, but also the whole of
China. The fact that most minority groups lead a more
religious lifestyle made their life more devastated than
others.
I would also
like to add that, if the British were not busy with
themselves and their other numerous colonies in Southeast
Asia during World War I and World War II, Tibet might now be
occupied by someone else other than the Chinese. Tibet not
only has invaluable coal mines, it is a militarily stragetic
spot. If Tibet is really "free-ed" now, it will probably
invite other hungry wolves to come.
Goh Jong-Mun
(Mr.)
from Singapore
Herne
the Hunter and worship of the Horned God in early Celtic
London
From: Penda
the Pagan, Germany
Subject:
Evidence
of worship of the Horned God in early Celtic
London
Date: 16th
March 2001
I just wanted
to point out that the stag also played an extremely
important role in the germanic witchcraft traditions. The
god Yngvi Freyr's sacred animal was the stag, and he used a
stag horn to slay the giant Beli. One of the tribes that
invaded Briton were called the Ingavones, whom were a tribe
that was dedicated to Ing Frea. Rituals surrounding Yngvi
Freyrwere very "shamanic" oriented. They did shaking/swaying
dances with small bells sewn into their tunics. Other
Inveonic rituals involved wildly dancing around boar heads,
as well as dressing up in boar skins . . . and yes . . .
wearing stag horns as well.
In fact a holy
ring-stead involves a circle of stones (to represent Freya's
necklace, the Brosingomene) with a stang (a pole with stag
horns on top). These two important peices represent Vanic
(gods of fauna and flora of sea and land) might in its
totality. Freya translates to "Lady", which in turn means
bread (power) maker, while Frey translates to "Lord" which
means bread (power) giver. The brosingomene is like a womb,
both a protector and a container for power (magen), while
the stang (harts horn) is like a penis, projective,
pentetrative, and power weilding(through "ejaculation" or
release of power).
Niord (organic
power latent in the sea) and Nertha (organic power latent in
the land) generate the reseviores of power that Frey and
Freya distribute through the fauna and flora. The Etons are
beings that represent major terrain features such as the
earths crust (Jord), the moon (Mani), the sun (Sol), the
mountains(the Risar), the sea(Aegir) and so on. The Thursar
represent the chaotic natural disasters (such as forest
fires, snow storms, tornadoes, hurricanes, and so on). The
Aesir are the forces of non-natural divine consciousness
(they are the creators of human consciousness). Examples of
these would be Woden (God of Wisdom), Frija (Goddess of
Domestic Affairs), Thunnor (God of Might), Tiw (God of Law)
and so on. The "little folk" are single function beings that
fall under the catagory of one of the above, usually etons
(such as trolls, kobolds, ect.), Vanir (such as huldre
folk), or even the Aesir (such as valkries). Each specie of
a plant or tree is treated collectively. For an example, Oak
represents all the oaks combined, Fox represents all the
foxes combined, and so on. As you can see, the Celts did not
have a monopoly on the concepts that you are talking about
in this web page.
It is sometimes
very difficult (especially in England) to determine what is
of Celtic influence or Germanic influence, simply because
both religions had very similar ways of conceptualising
something as well as their shared influences in modern
England. I don't think that Robin Hood has anything to do
with the Celts. He came around way after the Celtic Britons
were driven away. He was most likely of Anglo Saxon
ancestory, even his name is Anglo Saxon derived. Robin Hood
could very well as easily be compared to the Anglo Saxon
Wuldor (Old Norse: Ullr) who is the god of hunting and
archery. It would be more logical to assume that Robin Hood
is a archetypal manifestation of Wuldor than the the Green
Man (which is actually the Roman God Silvanus
Pater).
The Green Man
is totally irrelevent to Celtic and Germanic Heathenry.
Cernunos and Freyr have more in common with Dionysus than
they do with Silvanus. Herne the Hunter is simply a local
spirit that acts like Woden but looks like Cernunos. Herne
does alot of Wodenic things, such as making dealings with
powerful beings, hanging himself on a tree, leading the wild
hunt, stirring strife, and so on. Even witchcraft (as it is
conceptualised in literature) is germanic. Riding broom
sticks (Frau Holle), the feline familiar (Freya's sacred
animal is a cat and she is the witch-goddess), the bubbling
kettle (in germanic herbal magic substances are prepared in
brass (NOT iron) kettles), the spiral dances (the Anglo
Saxon wicc- means to twist/turn), ointmens (tons of accounts
of witches and germany using flying ointmens), skrying (tons
of accounts in germany of witches using mirrors, pools of
water, and so on) and so many other things it isn't even
funny. I have never even read a story about a witch with a
Celtic name. All the "witchy" names I have ever heard in
literature were "Hilda", "Gretta", "Mildred", and so
on.
Don't get me
wrong, I fully realise that the Celts had their "shamanic"
arts of herbal/animal based magic, otherworld travel,
shapeshifting, and so on. In fact, it has much in common
with germanic witchdom. However the things such as
broomsticks, familiars, kettles, witchy names and so on are
passed off as being "Celtic" by people that are uneducated
in the subject. I feel that the truth is FAR more
interesting than the fantasy. I am sure that if you do your
homework you will find things in the Celtic Tradition that
is just as rich and beautiful as that of the Germanic
Tradition, it's just that us Germanic Heathens get a little
peaved when people say that certain Germanic things are
Celtic when they are not.
Penda the
Pagan
The
death of Princess Diana: What caused the crash at the Point
d'Alma ?
From:
"Spiritist", London, UK
Subject:
The
death of Princess Diana: What caused the crash at the Point
d'Alma ?
Date: 5th Jun
2001
You are the
first people to receive this information other than al
fayed, to whom we sent a communication 3 years ago. We are a
spiritual group in n london and a few weeks after the death
of diana, henri paul communicated to us through our medium
that he was not drunk - the crash was not his fault - there
was another car. thats all we got - nothing else.
Al fayed could
have sat with the group. we never heard from him. here is a
man desperate to glean the truth. i think not. if so he
would have been in contact.
Keep up the
good work. get the info out to the public.
A well
wisher.
p.s. the reason
he came through this particular circle. Spiritually, like
attracts like. our circle leader is FRENCH!
An
extract from the Notes of the Amen Corner by James
Baldwin
From: David
Henshaw, Boston, Mass', USA
Subject:
An
extract from the Notes of the Amen Corner by James
Baldwin
Date: June
1st 2001
I am a college
instructor who will be taking an Introduction to Theatre
class to the Huntington Theatre (Boston, Mass.) production
of The Amen Corner next week. I discovered your site
while checking for things online relating to it to share
with my class.
As to why it is
not frequently revived - it is not his best play, nor does
it rank very high in the pantheon of great black drama -
though it certainly has its moments, and its position as a
major work propelling black thater at mid-century forward
does give it some cachet.
Blues for
Mister Charlie is a better dramatic vehicle, and writers
such as Lorraine Hansbury and LeRoi Jones (as he was) spoke
louder and better at the time.
That era is
still oft invoked in the US, for comparisons both good and
bad. And the church statements are still true in many
ways - as a maternalistic and highly pressured section of
that society. Similar stricture and structure can be seen in
the early years of the Black Muslim movement.
Also, numerous
leaders of the community have come from the religious
sector, from Martin Luther King jr. to Jesse Jackson and the
highly questionable but extremely vocal Al Sharpton. (Rev.
Shifty a NY Post writer recently labeled him.) However, even
more interesting to me was reading about his refuge in
France.
Reading this in
an Irish publication brought to mind the foreign sojourns of
Joyce and Becket, and inevitably of Oscar Wilde, similarly
scorned for homosexuality. {Indeed, my password used to be
OscrWild.}
To add to the
mix is a statement made by the 19th century black writer,
Fredrick Douglass, who noted after a trip to England and
Ireland that the peoples of Ireland, like the Negro, long
under the oppressive hand of a different folk, both found a
solace and strength for their sorrow in music.
And you can add
that the joint production of "The Amen Corner" by the
Goodman Theatre in Chicago & The Huntington here in
Boston was an outstanding one. We saw the preview here -
though 12 of the 16 member cast transferred with the set
from the Goodman.
The gospel
music made a wonderful accentuation to the breaks between
theatrical moments and the conflicts on stage - they had
changed some from what Hames Baldwin indicated. The
performances - especially Sister Margaret and Luke were
outstanding, and there were no poor ones.
The designed
chose to elvate the church to a second level over the
apartment, rather than using one side of the stage and the
other (as indicated in the script.) Not only did it provide
a marvelous amount of room in the church, it made some
wonderful statements about ascending to the spiritual realm
or descending to the secular world, as well as showing how
the church pressed down on David.
As usual, the
Huntington has made my season tickets a worthwhile
investment. And this September they will be doing the
Tony-award-winning musical version of Joyce's The Dead. I am
eager, as it is among my favorite pieces of Joyce's, and
Hustoin's film version ended with a fade away shot similar
to what I envisioned in college when I first read it in
1061.
David
Henshaw
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